craft them to their own. i do think there may be some truth to the story, truth to miss whelan s story stolen by casey but i don t think it s coming into this trial. it s coming in, meg. no way, joey, no way. i d make a date with you joey, no way. the point of the matter is about her not having direct contact it doesn t matter. you ve heard the expression, we ve heard it through the grapevine. you don t have to have direct contact to learn about something like this happening, and then saying, hum, maybe that would work for me, and then all of a sudden during opening statements her lawyer is saying, this was an accidental drowning. this was not an accidental drowning, it was premeditated, intentional murder, she will be convicted. she will be convicted. jon: a lot of stories get passed around in jail cell blocks that is for sure.
meg strickler, joey jackson thank you. jenna: we are awaiting president obama s announcement on the details of the troop drawdown in afghanistan. we haveee action from a prominent member of the committee, lindsey graham will weigh in. this single mom takes a stand right or wrong, she sees thieves take off with loot and takes action. i told the cashier, do something, they are leaving. she couldn t do anything, i just said watch my purse. i m tired of it. our society has to stand up and say, this is not right, we re not going to put up with it, you ll be punished. jenna: that s right, watch my purse. she went out and got them. jon, would you do the same thing. jon: i would like to think i would do the same thing, i don t know, three against one? jenna: that s tough. there is a poll coming up. we want the viewers to weigh in.
yes, true, but at least they re making a comment on society which means that law enforcement must follow the rules like the rest of us. and threatening personal liability is the best way to get them to behave and not cross over and stomp on our constitutional and civil rights. gregg: randy, you would defend these guys, wouldn t you, randy? no question. it is amazing to me life up in the ivory tower. i think it s great. i applaud these law students, i applaud what they do, but let s get down to the real world, and let s talk about the way things really work. it reminds me of that scene in back to school with rodney dangerfield sitting in the class saying let s talk about the way a factory really gets built. you cannot sue agents and federal officials personally for doing their job. gregg: all right. meg strickler, randy, good to see you both. we ll wait and see how one evolves. happy holidays. gregg: all right. jenna: interesting discussion, huh? gregg: oh, yeah. jenna: well, from
be sued for going on air and reporting a story. gregg: meg? i ve gotta chip in here. i ve gotta chip in here. we need a chilling effect. i work in the criminal defense field, and we immediate to keep an eye on law enforcement officials. and in this case they were a little egregious, that s exactly the words used in the lawsuit. they busted in the door of these people at 6:30 in the morning where a young person was, took him out of his bedroom, a sack ro sand, private place gregg: without a warrant. without a warrant. they knocked, they didn t explain why they were there, nothing gregg: but, meg, they re allowed to engage in a warrantless search into anybody s home if they believe criminal activity is afoot and exigent circumstances exist. i agree. and be that s not what was going on here. gregg: are you sure? there was no danger to gregg: no, no, no, the cops believed that it was. and let s were they
illegal? no. yes, they were illegal, but the people in this apartment gregg: well, there s criminal activity afoot, they re illegal, randy. no, no, no. but it s not illegal they re waiting for this! you don t let these people get sued personally. you re not happy with the way things happened, toss the case. you i don t yeah, but slippery slope excuse me. you don t subject an individual out there doing his job to personal liability. you don t subject a judge to personal liability, the legislature, but the guy down on the ground? him you let get sued? it s ridiculous. gregg: meg, aren t the plaintiffs going to have to prove this went beyond just ordinary decision making, it was malicious and intentional by i.c.e.? and by the way, good luck proving that one. well, they already got one place, the judge already has ruled in our favor it was a motion to dismiss. anybody can get by that.