to be the defense department and seizing voting machines. that these cast of characters were all there, that people were shouting, that the meeting was going off forever. we knew this in realtime, and was covered extensively on this network. you tweeted actually that the testimony underplayed just how crazy that meeting was. i, look, to be clear, i think the participants in that meeting that we heard from ourselves which we had not before, that was pretty striking, hearing them all just described on the record how nuts they found this. but there was something lost in some of the details. there was obviously exchanges that are congressman describe with marc flynn, and i thought that was dramatic. but there are things going back and forth and trump was in and out and trump was almost a non factor in the discussions of that meeting, and that s a problem. because trump was a factor, he was asked a lot of questions, he was making a lot of points. and to you two people were tears aft
decisions are political, so to the extent that if your question is, did i believe he should concede the election at a point time, yes, i did. i believe that was i believe in due process. that would be in line with my thinking on these things. the mcconnell speech that pat cipollone referred to was on december 15th, the day after the electoral college ratified president biden s victory. three days later, cipollone will take part in a meeting that one witness at the time, cassidy hutchinson, described as, quote, unhinged. at the, gathering sydney powell, retiring general and pardon fell, and mark flynn, the ceo of overstocked.com, rudy giuliani. on the agenda of flynn, proposal, her declaring martial law, the possibility of
say here s my evidence and proof of conspiracy, i need more than you inspired people in some way. i have to have instruction or have to have a meeting of the minds. somebody to actually say here is, you know, one plus one equals two. so far, what we have today, morally culpable behavior. certainly problematic. enough to have a criminal prosecution? not yet. thanks. one of the witnesses today, a former spokesman, we talked about his testimony this morning. and the future if the president is elected again. a tragic development in uvalde. lead video at robb elementary. what it shows about police response and what it is doing to parents. more ahead.
i m going to categorically describe it as, you guys are not tough enough. or maybe, i ll put it another way, you are bunch of weaklings, excuse the expression. but i m almost certain that s the word that was used. i was screamed at, he was screaming at me. and then at a certain point i had it with him. and then i yield back. i had to come over or sit your butt back down. a swig of dr pepper was the case of that testimony. as surreal as all of that was, the presentation made clear that this was not a moment when the former president suddenly realized it was time to pack it in, and instead, almost immediately after that meeting ended, in the wee hours of the morning, donald trump sent out that tweet, calling on his millions of followers to come to washington d.c. on january
the meeting, the next day, december 19th. most of that reporting was accurate. we learned more at the in-depth story and jonathan swan about the specifics of what was being said, but the basics for that trump wanted to appoint sidney powell. there is a discussion about using the apparatus of government in the election. in this case, it turned out to be a defense department. they were in their shouting. they were in there forever. we need this in real time. it was covered extensively on his network. you tweeted today that the testimony underplayed how crazy that meeting was. to be clear, the participants of that meeting that we heard from themselves, which we had not before that was pretty striking. hearing them describe on the record how nuts they found this. you know, there was something lost in some of the details. there was obviously exchanges