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dumpster fire, hasn t it. these are two people that are troubled and the details that are disturbing, they both accuse each other of abuse. and a lot of people have looked at amber heard s testimony and found some of the things that she s claimed dubious. the same could be said also of johnny depp and i think you see a little bit of that play out. and in terms of victims of abuse coming forward, regardless of how this shakes out, there may be people who take away from this that their allegations of abuse may not be taken seriously. it certainly would be unfortunate if that were the case, joe. nbc s stephanie gosk, thank you very much. that is worth looking into more and talking about more. it is now the top of the fourth hour of morning joe. 9:00 a.m. on the east coast, 6:00 a.m. out west and we have a lot to get to this morning. we ll have the latest from ukraine where after months of holding out, ukraine has officially ceded the key port city of mariupol as russian miss

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