was alive on a lot of people. i mean he was the founder one of the founders of al qaeda. he was the emotional leader of al qaeda, the spiritual leader. and that was very carefully orchestrated by his media presentations. on friday, a very emotional day when president obama came to ground zero. it must have brought back a lot memories for you, rudy. how was the day for you? it was a very intense, very emotional day. it was a beautiful day in many ways because it wasn t just about the fact that he was brought to justice and bin laden is now gone. but it was a chance to recognize all of these firefighters and police officers. i particularly enjoyed having lunch with the firefighters with president obama. they were they were very natural and very normal with him. and he was with them. and i had this sense that they had respect for him because he made a courageous decision. and after all, these men practice courage and bravery every day.
i asked donald rumsfeld this. it was an extraordinary video that came out, such a pathetic old man with his gray-white beard, trembling, watch his television, his own videos. hardly the caricature that he had been painstakingly showing the rest of the world. well, yeah, you can see this was a person who was in large part an actor. he actually dyed his beard so he would look better on television. he seemed to be critiquing himself and interrupting himself when he wasn t doing it correctly. and i think this is probably been the story of bin laden from the very beginning. he understood the media. he understood how to use the media. and that was very important to him. and it had an impact while he was alive on a lot of people. i mean he was the founder one of the founders of al qaeda. he was the emotional leader of al qaeda, the spiritual leader. and that was very carefully orchestrated by his media presentations.
the rest of the world. well, yeah, you can see this spend most of his time hiding. was a person who was in large and so it was i think it did part an actor. he actually dyed his beard so he give people a sense that the would look better on television. united states and the coalition he seemed to be critiquing of over 90 countries are going himself and interrupting himself to go after terrorist leaders, when he wasn t doing it correctly. and that anyone who aspires to and i think this is probably succeed him as the leader of al been the story of bin laden from the very beginning. qaeda will probably not be looking towards a long life. he understood the media. he understood how to use the he cut a almost pathetic media. and that was very important to him. and it had an impact while he was alive on a lot of people. figure watching himself on this small television screen in this i mean he was the founder one of the founders of al qaeda. dingy little room. if i was a member of al qa