to bring judges, particularly, the federal judiciary of the supreme court, back to what the constitution actually said, and the laws passed by congress. so we didn t have courts and judges usurping the powers of the congress, usurping the powers of the executive branch, and also quite frankly, changing the way in which the constitution was being read. mark: it s amazing because you felt it necessary to go out there and make speeches and press the case, and as i recall at the time having worked with you, the media got very angry with you. the media couldn t believe here you are rejecting this notion of a living and breathe constitution, and telling the courts and anybody else who s involved in the law, you have a duty to show fidelity to the document itself, and yet in some quarters that was controversial?
to bring judges, particularly, the federal judiciary of the supreme court, back to what the constitution actually said, and the laws passed by congress. so we didn t have courts and judges usurping the powers of the congress, usurping the powers of the executive branch, and also quite frankly, changing the way in which the constitution was being read. mark: it s amazing because you felt it necessary to go out there and make speeches and press the case, and as i recall at the time having worked with you, the media got very angry with you. the media couldn t believe here you are rejecting this notion of a living and breathe constitution, and telling the courts and anybody else who s involved in the law, you have a duty to show fidelity to the document itself, and yet in some quarters that was
his hand says is the truth at that particular point of time. and that s, in fact, precisely the method being described if you read george orwell s 1984. and there is this eerie parallel in which trump basically, i think the strategy of trump s lies or untruths or misleading statements is just to create a kind of blizzard effect so that at some point people sort of feel defenseless in the face of it because there s just too much to unpack at any given day. now there are however many per day, seven, it would be better 30. 30 per day. if there were 60 per day because those of us in the media couldn t keep up and people in the public stop to care. and that s the key point. people become apathetic to the questions of truth and falsehood emanating from the people with power in washington. let me push back a little on something you said at the beginning.
the method being described if you read george orwell s 1984. and there is this eerie parallel in which trump basically, i think the strategy of trump s lies or untruths or misleading statements is just to create a kind of blizzard effect so that at some point people sort of feel defenseless in the face of it because there s just too much to unpack at any given day. now there are however many per day, seven, it would be better 30. 30 per day. if there were 60 per day because those of us in the media couldn t keep up and people in the public stop to care. and that s the key point. people become apthetsic to the questions of truth and falsehood emanating from the people with power in washington. let me push back a little on something you said at the beginning. you re right. there is, in addition to the lies, there are also things he gets wrong out of idiocy, lack of preparation, ambivalence. but it is not on us. this is part of the lowering of
their political wagons to a cast of radical unsavory characters that looks like a reunion of the suicide squad. enter michael avenatti. a two bit tax cheat and celebrity attorney reborn as crusading lawyer to porn star trump accuser stormy daniels. the president trusted mr. cohen as his fixer for years. he trusted him with his innermost secrets and i think that the chickens are about to come home to roost. laura: they are coming home to roost, all right. as a battering ram against donald trump and later his supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh, avenatti was elevated by the left. the media couldn t get enough of avenatti. he went from huckster hard-charging lawyer to nationwide brand. his face was suddenly plastered all over tv. this profile from vanity fair