how do you do? we ve been trying to reach you and talk to you about the widespread fraud that s in the medi-cal drug rehab business. but we re told that neither you north program director or anybody in the state of california will talk to us about it. in an uncomfortable moment, the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary? do you know alex ferdman, a convicted felon, who apparently runs one of these clinics and has been billing the state of california for several years? despite the fact that there have been complaints registered with the department about him? he s convicted of a major insurance fraud in the state of texas but for somehow was able to get certified and has been billing. i m just wondering if there s anybody in the state of california that s concerned about this fraud. then finally answer add question. the state of takes fraud very seriously. and there are many investigations that are under way. the allegations, all allegations are given full and fair
that wasn t my decision. reporter: state health officials in one sacramento building after another refused to be questioned, including toby douglas, who oversees drug medi-cal. will you provide a response as to why this widespread fraud is allowed to continue? finally, after weeks of calling the state s secretary of health and human services, diana duley, and getting no for an answer, we decided to ask for a response in person. secretary yes. reporter: drew griffin with cnn. we ve been trying to reach you and talk to you about the widespread fraud that s in the medi-cal drug rehab business but we ve told neither you or anybody the state of california will talk to us. the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary, do you know alex ferdnand, a convicted felon, who
month, we ve gotten nowhere. can i just ask you from you, why? that wasn t my decision. reporter: state health officials in one sacramento building after another refused to be questioned, including toby douglas, who oversees drug medi-cal. will you provide a response as to why this widespread fraud is allowed to continue? finally, after weeks of calling the state s secretary of health and human services, diana duley, and getting no for an answer, we decided to ask for a response in person. secretary yes. reporter: drew griffin with cnn. we ve been trying to reach you and talk to you about the widespread fraud that s in the medi-cal drug rehab business but we ve told neither you or anybody the state of california will talk to us. the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary, do you know alex ferdnand, a convicted felon, who
medi-cal. will you make sure to provide a response as to why this widespread fraud is allowed to continue? finally after weeks of calling the state s secretary of health and human services, diana dooley, and getting no for an answer, we decided to ask for a response in person. secretary dooley? yes. drew griffin with cnn. how do you do? we ve been trying to reach you and talk to you about the widespread fraud that s in the medi-cal drug rehab business but we re told neither you nor the program director nor anybody at the state of california will talk to us about it. in an uncomfortable moment, the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary? do you know alex ferdman, a convicted felon who apparently runs one of these clinics and has been billing the state of california for several years? despite the fact that there have been complaints registered with the department about him? he s convicted of a major insurance fraud in the state of
building after another refused to be questioned, including toby douglas, who oversees drug medi-cal. will you provide a response as to why this widespread fraud is allowed to continue? finally, after weeks of calling the state s secretary of health and human services, diana duley, and getting no for an answer, we decided to ask for a response in person. secretary yes. reporter: drew griffin with cnn. we ve been trying to reach you and talk to you about the widespread fraud that s in the medi-cal drug rehab business but we ve told neither you or anybody the state of california will talk to us. the secretary at first refused to speak. secretary, do you know alex ferdnand, a convicted felon, who runs one of these clinics and has been billing the state of california for several years, despite the fact that there have