To my grassroots and spend the day as a Health Care Assistant in one of our busy care of the elderly wards. Live now to our north of england Reporterjessica Lane who is outside the hospital where lucy letby and Tony Chambers worked. Tell us more about this . We are outside the tell us more about this . We are outside the countess tell us more about this . We are outside the countess of tell us more about this . We are outside the countess of chester| outside the countess of Chester Hospital and of course, it is very much in the news right now but it is also a busy working hospital. We have seen several families going into their Maternity Unit today and into their Maternity Unit today and into their Maternity Unit today and into the hospital. We have seen some pregnant women, some with young babies and of course this has caused real concern in the community here. This hospital doesntjust cover chester, it also covers part of West Cheshire and also part of north east wales. What we know
examples, nowhere is perfect and | learn from? there are a number of| examples, nowhere is perfect and i don t believe that there ever will be a whistle blowing mall that is perfect because of the nature of these things, they are easily corrupted. you just can design any law and somebody will find a way around it. you can do your best and the important thing is that you have checks and balances built into the law so that it has regular review and that lawmakers are not governments, regularly have oversight and make sure that the mechanism isn t stale or as perverted. that s the best you can do. the nature of power is that these things will eventually get corrupted. but the version of it that we have in this country certainly could be improved. with lessons from otherjurisdictions.
juan: these are all lifetime politicians, jesse. greg: may be likability matters. juan: of course it matters. dana: soto is going to wisconsin. that s the thing that bothers me. the election was actually pretty close. if she had done a little bit more in wisconsin and michigan it may be pennsylvania. she lost. is it because did she lose because she s a woman or because she wasn t winning? jesse: creating a sexism defense because they can t accept the fact that some of the women running as democrats are unlikable people. they built this mechanism isn t to say if you are against them, it s because you re sexist. dana: hillary clinton was hearing that about herself, even in the white house. juan: hillary clinton, one of the most popular politicians when she was secretary of state. dana: go back to when she was first lady. juan: she was popular and
i m not convinced that there was anything at the time that the parents informed law enforcement they could have done anything. you know, in the state of new york, for example, we can take you to a hospital like bellevue and bring you in for psychiatric evaluation against your will for 72 hours. i don t know even if that was done, if that would ve stopped this problem. i m curious about the family dynamic. i m curious as to what the family did to try to get him counseling or therapy or medications. i will say this, this is a little unconventional because it sounds like he wasn t completely disenfranchised from the family. sounds like the family had some interest as to what was going on in his life. the problem is, the mechanism isn t in place in our culture to kind of further that process. i think that s what we re learning.