recognition that your call, your demand for a new relationship between humanitarian maker for humanity and all the other creatures on this planet, but the call failed? ~ ., ., failed? well, it failed to achieve failed? well, it failed to achieve what failed? well, it failed to achieve what i failed? well, it failed to achieve what i had - failed? well, it failed to l achieve what i had hoped failed? well, it failed to i achieve what i had hoped it would achieve and what i believe ethically it needs to achieve, that s true. it did not totally fail because there is now an animal rights movement which is a powerful force in many of the countries in the world and many people currently credit my book as having triggered or inspired that movement. and that movement has had some achievements in some countries. i would not deny that. but if we look at it globally, there are more animals in factory farms than there were ever before and there are more animals suffering from human
peter singer, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen. it s good to be with you again. it s great to be here and have you here with me, and partly the reason is because you ve written an updated, rewritten version of that book you almost five decades ago, animal liberation. it s called animal liberation now. is the publication of this update recognition that your call, your demand for a new relationship between humanity and all the other creatures on this planet, that that call failed? well, it failed to achieve what i had hoped it would achieve and what i believe ethically it needs to achieve, that s true. it didn t totally fail because there is now an animal rights movement which is a powerfulforce in many of the countries in the world and many people kindly credit my book as having triggered or inspired that movement. and that movement has had some achievements in some countries, i wouldn t deny that, but if we look at it globally, there are more animals in factory farms t
Its called Animal Liberation now. Is the publication of this Update Recognition that your call, your demand for a new relationship between humanity and all the other creatures on this planet, that that call failed . Well, it failed to achieve what i had hoped it would achieve and what i believe ethically it needs to achieve, thats true. It didnt totally fail because there is now an Animal Rights movement which is a powerfulforce in many of the countries in the world and many people kindly credit my book as having triggered or inspired that movement. And that movement has had some achievements in some countries, i wouldnt deny that, but if we look at it globally, there are more animals in factory farms than there were ever before and there are more animals suffering from human use and misuse than there were before, so yes, i have to accept in that sense, it has failed. Isnt your most fundamental principle a simple one . That is, that human beings have no moral, ethical right to exploit
Its called Animal Liberation now. Is the publication of this Update Recognition that your call, your demand for a new relationship between humanity and all the other creatures on this planet, that that call failed . Well, it failed to achieve what i had hoped it would achieve and what i believe ethically it needs to achieve, thats true. It didnt totally fail because there is now an Animal Rights movement which is a powerful force in many of the countries in the world and many people kindly credit my book as having triggered or inspired that movement. And that movement has had some achievements in some countries, i wouldnt deny that, but if we look at it globally, there are more animals in factory farms than there were ever before and there are more animals suffering from human use and misuse than there were before, so yes, i have to accept in that sense, it has failed. Isnt your most fundamental principle a simple one . That is, that human beings have no moral, ethical right to exploit
in the discussion that i already had in the book about reasons for an ethical diet. what is it to eat an ethical diet? and i think, actually, this is one of the easier ways we can cut greenhouse gases. we don t need new technologies, we don t need to redo the power grid, we just have to stop eating meat and, as you say, we ll cut that 15% and that s really going to be important in the battle to avoid catastrophic climate change. yeah. you don t necessarily need to stop eating meat, do you? you canjust become a different kind of meat consumer you can become an ethical omnivore, i think the phrase is where you make a point of saying, i know where the meat i m purchasing comes from. it was grown in a farm which is committed to humane practices. the animals are basically happy, until they are killed humanely and on that basis, i m good to eat the meat. would you agree that those people are good to eat that meat? well, from the point of view of the animals, it s a defensible view