senate intelligence committee chairman mark warner warning against a russian cyberattack and what that could mean for the u.s. and our allies this morning on meet the press. if you suddenly see american troops get hurt because the power has been shut off or polish citizens die because the hospitals go down, you re very rapidly approaching what i think is article 5 violation. article 5 meaning a declaration of war, a state of war by nato against the russian cyber warriors. joining us now is richard stengel, former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, and msnbc national security analyst clint watts. clint, how soon would you expect to see some kind of nato allied reaction to a cyberattack? we have already seen cyberattacks from russia. cyberwinds and our election in