look at this moment. remember, alice marie johnson, had her on the program. remember, she came out of prison right into the arms of her loving family and said, thank you, america, for giving me a second chance, i won t let you down. that would not have happened but for kanye west and kim kardashian. you know t what, they made that happen, they stepped out, they asked president trump for help. the president stepped up and at theor right thing in this case. you know what, she deserved to be let go. also, they followed it up. they pushed for criminal justice reform. they work with jared kushner, they work for the white house, the president of the president jumped on board again. this will help thousands of real people and impact thousands of real lives. meanwhile, what did he get from the rest of hollywood? all these other rich celebrities, they kind of yell endlessly on twitter how much they hate donald trump and his supporters. kanye says, i will work with you. let s get this done, let
but, look, what we both know, governor, is that this is what he lives for. he s going to just keep throwing stuff like this at you. are you ready for it, for the months of this that you are going to endure? i am. because i ve got four sons that love me and that s what counts. i ve got a god above that i know loves me. and again, you get those things right with a couple of friends and everything else is gravy. i think that his world view is entirely misguided, because it s all about him. at the end of the day, politics ought to be about the very people that we represent and attempt to represent. and so he can blow me up for something that i did ten years ago that i ve apologized for profu profusely, that i ve been on the journey of repentance and renewal and a second chance, which i believe is part and parcel of the christian faith. and most importantly, the people who knew me best gave me a second chance. after that, they sent me back to the united states congress to represent them i
look at prisoners, how we look at people. thank you for seeing me as another human human being and gg me a second chance in life. ainsley: okay. so the president granted you clemency but not a pardon. what s the difference? a pardon means that i get to start over totally. i don t have to report in to probation. i have to report in constantly to probation. i have to get permission to travel. and i m traveling a hot. eaps eans are you asking the president, if he s watching this interview, are you asking him to, please, pardon you? i would like a full pardon, but i don t want to make it just be about this. i d rather focus on other people. if i could choose between myself getting a full pardon and someone getting clemency, i d say give them clemency. ainsley: is your biggest regret getting involved with this guy ted who got you into this mess? that s one, but my biggest
look at prisoners, how we look at people. thank you for seeing me as another human human being and gg me a second chance in life. ainsley: okay. so the president granted you clemency but not a pardon. what s the difference? a pardon means that i get to start over totally. i don t have to report in to probation. i have to report in constantly to probation. i have to get permission to travel. and i m traveling a hot. eaps eans are you asking the president, if he s watching this interview, are you asking him to, please, pardon you? i would like a full pardon, but i don t want to make it just be about this. i d rather focus on other people. if i could choose between myself getting a full pardon and someone getting clemency, i d say give them clemency. ainsley: is your biggest regret getting involved with this guy ted who got you into this mess? that s one, but my biggest
program. wow. 40 bible studies, 21 years in jail, and you get introduced to the country by the president. he got something done that no other president got done that tried before him. how do you feel? i feel wonderful. and grateful, sir. sean: i think 40 bible studies. i think i m going to be the one asking you for prayers. how did you change? when you saw alice johnson, when she came out of prison and she embraced her family and said thank you, america, for giving me a second chance. i won t let you down. your story seems exactly like hers. you change for the better in prison. how? prior to me going into prison and before sentencing, i ended up accepting the lord jesus christ is my personal sav. that commitment that i made a god as well as his spirit changed me in a way that reflected outwardly. sean: kim kardashian