workers will have to work more for their benefits just as they are going to have to in new york. and in wisconsin. and a host of other states where some have called a union gravy train has slowed if not stopped. we will get reaction from this from republican presidential can state pawlenty but first, a pollster on the enormousty of this. guest: this is a great issue of our time in the states. it undergirds everything happening nationally. chris christie has stood up and said no, and they have done everything but they the kitchen sink including calling him hitler and this victory today is important because it is saying the unions for a long time, public employees, public employees unions and private, have been aline to negotiate with their bosses, giving campaign contributions and rigged the system in state after state, and the voters who will never seen the pensions would
delivering it in new jersey. neil: what do you thing of those who plan to target the democrats who vetted for are this in the state senate? guest: well, that is their progressive but i had a government shut down the first in 150 years in my state over tax-and-spending issues in 2005 and many in the pundit class said pawlenty is done, his career is over and the next year i was re-elected in 2006 in the most difficult environments for republicans in the modern history of the country, in a very blue state, and more liberal than new jersey and perhaps one of the most liberal states in the country so the declaration that the unions or liberal interests take out the republicans, why buy that because the public is on our side now on the issues. neil: governor, how do you think republicans are doing with union voters? with union members? guest: you have to separate the public me unions from the