weekend in rolling stone magazine. senator marco rubio reacting on the presidential trail this way. he interviewed el chapo and guessed they used interview he had the mexicans did, that is fantastic. i hope they extradite el chapo to the united states. if one of these american actors benefited from greatness of this country, made money from our free enterprise system want to fawn all over a criminal and drug trafficker in their interviews they have a constitutional right to do it. i find it growth desk. bill: joining me pete hegseth, iraq and afghanistan war veteran, fox news contributor. and emily camapoo an attorney. joining us on the legal side. americans want him extradited, based on what? where is the motivation for the mexicans to follow through on that? the united states wants him for his vast supply of heroin, methaphetamine, cocaine and more into the united states. in fact the united states is the largest recipient of guzman s
what is illegal harboring or concealing a fugitive, making moves towards that. meeting with a fugitive is not that. he had no duty to report guzman to the united states authorities. i see u.s. subpoenaing him and documenting his transcripts and sean penn considers himself a activist. i see him digging into his heels or even testifying for the united states. under this administration they have prosecuted many more people under the espionage act since 1911 than any other history combined in this. i see there might be a fight moving forward with sean penn at the center. bill: i want to bring in pete hegseth. talk about the chase for this man. it is said penn s interview led authorities to him. how do you do that? what would be process involved on behalf of mexican authorities to get on his trail, pete? sure. it starts with informants or
folks willing to give up information in. ultimately el chapo s vanity gave him away. they tried to meet him in remote location of durango state, six hours from where he was eventually captured. sean penn didn t think there was anybody tracking him but there were eyes on him. there likely were. to contact el cheap el chapo he had to go through a famous mexican actress. that is when human intelligence turns into signals intelligence and they monitor an area. they knew el chapo was there and they would raid him after the interview. there were women and children they didn t. turns out after that they collaborated with one of the folks that built the tunnel to get information where he might be. that is where the second raid occurred where they ultimately got him. a lot of humans involved. bill: pete, you look at this on the face, you escape a couple of times, you can t do that unless you have people on the inside helping you. that goes to the level of