mcguffey full. he skipped out on the first rollicking debate on fox on wednesday for a counter programming interview with ex fox news host tucker carlson. of course, trump s campaign boasted inflated views after that interview aired on x, formerly known as twitter. his team says he won the debate in dominating fashion with more views than the rnc debate. trump claimed a total of more than 100 million views. that number does not necessarily reflect the number of people who actually watched the interview. it simply refers to the number of users who saw the post. here with me on set to make it all makes sense is brian stelter, journalist and author of hoax. he also, here you go, has a new book coming out about fox news called network of lies. it s coming out this november and everyone s going to get a copy of it. brian, let s start with it. i want to understand. this he saying more than 100 billion views but that s not legit. make it make sense. why is this always about a