ethos of democratic experiment that however flawed in beginning and today continues if we have the heart and mind to evolve in the right direction, that experiment is at risk because there are not enough senator smiths and there are too many mccarthys. you set us up so well for next bit of conversation after this quick break. jon has graciously agreed to stay with us. when we come back, he ll do what he does best, leave us hope for what s to come. at least he better or we ll never have him on again. n again. welcome back to that same old place that you laughed about well, the names he all changed since you hung around but those dreams have remained and they ve turned around who d have thought they d lead you (who d have thought they d lead you) back here where we need you (back here where we need you)
mcconnells and others of the world aren t acting against them because they fear their wrath, not just donald trump, but those voters wrath so there s a lot of misinformation and counterprogramming that has to happen. there have to be more liz cheneys, more mitt romneys, people that are willing to speak out, and people that are willing to sacrifice their political careers to right this train back on its tracks, and i m afraid it is going to take not just one, not just two, but maybe three or four national elections to get this out of the body politic, and i wish i was i hope to god i m wrong about that, but i think it is going to take a really, really long time. every moment in which the republican party has had in the past five months or so since the inaugural to start the process of purging donald trump from this narrative, they ve embraced
life. this tiny baby needed heart surgery. here at st. marys medical center dr. michael black performed the delegate procedure to narrow her aorta, a defect since birth. he made it seem like he was the best person to do this, yes. it was very, like, no sweat, don t worry about it, it s a walk in the park. reporter: but the surgery was a disaster. i looked at her and her legs had started they stiffened up a lot and started going in almost a table top position. reporter: after the surgery, layla was paralyzed. here she is today. the mccarthys had no idea their daughter s tragedy had a disturbing back story, one no one had told them. three months before her operation, a baby had died after heart surgery by dr. black and five months before that, alexander gutierrez died and a month and a half before that,
this is why george washington came out of retirement, there are moments that you can t avoid. what i would say, which would be more practical, is if the house republican conference wanted me to be in a position to sit down with them and talk with them and try to help them think this through. i think this is a conference-wide problem. i don t see this as a personality problem. i think this is something which requires serious, historic thought. so, serious historic thought. but the freedom caucus got their point of view, and the mccarthys have their point of view. nothing s going to happen for the republican party, the house, if they cannot compromise on some level. that s right. so does anyone want to have a caretaker for 16 more months get nothing done? well, maybe they could actually get a lot if it were somebody like newt gingrich i mean he would be great, a great counterbalance to the iran deal. you know, it s all about the debt limit. close down the government, once upon
mccarthys are descending quiet easily. he has one long shot challenger of florida whose going to easily win this race. at the same time, i was on capitol hill yesterday. a lot of house republicans are concerned. they wonder is kevin mccarthy ready. i guess the question at this point, what do you think, joe, do you think he s ready? he doesn t look ready. willie, is kevin mccarthy ready? far be it for me. this probably ends up in terms of speakership. the bigger picture for hillary clinton we started in an interview this homorning with reverend sharpton, here s the guy who will be the speaker of the house saying explicitly that the benghazi investigation is po lit sized. i think it absolutely, what i love is the out ranrage. the hillary clinton campaign