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MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports June 4, 2024 20:23:00

exactly. that s the problem. these people have not exactly demonstrated they want to be negotiated with. he s had a tough time find anybody to have a conversation with about these things. if i knew anything about the freedom caucus, they love the move the goal posts. so it feels like this could go on for a long time because you have a mccarthy whose strategy is built on longevity versus a group of people who have nothing better to do. it s what they ve staked their credibility on is wanting to stick it out and they don t care they re upsetting their colleagues. they ve spent their entire time in congress trying to blow up the plans of the rest of the conference. this is a group that professes to want to be very bottom up. they say whatever the conference wants to do rather than leadership should be the direction we go. in this situation, they re going to opposite direction. badly outnumbered.

MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports June 4, 2024 20:34:00

happening and what you re seeing and our team, which is spread out across the building is reporting. exactly. which is why you see me looking down as often as i do because that is the life blood of how we communicate here on capitol hill. these are the conversations we re having now with members as 245i leave the floor because many are trying to eat lunch and figure out what these next steps are and the general consensus we re hearing, if they are in the not mccarthy group, they say they re holding fast. that could mean it doesn t get done today. it could mean at some point, they do a motion to adjourn, which means they take a pause and some back. a pause. that s an option if the majority of the house of represent i haves chooses that. that s right because even there is a gamble.

MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports June 4, 2024 20:18:00

chair of the judiciary committee, which he s set to go once they actually pick a speaker here, so for jim jordan, now i think the open question is can he start moving votes and not just on the floor, but as he s talking to his colleagues one-on-one because right now, you re right. everyone is so entrenched. i will also say as you re watching these proceedings and we ll go again for a third ballot and we ll see this again. democrats really seem to be enjoying themselves. talking to them before this, many of them were relishing the idea that this was a moment where democrats were in array and republicans were the ones who are in complete chaos. they are really clearly having a good time here as all of them continue to vote for jeffries. some of them have joked with me that they are the happiest group of people ever entering a minority party because they are so united in not just what they want to do pushing policy, which at this point, you know that s going nowhere because they lack the

MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports June 4, 2024 20:51:00

home or do whatever, and i just want to understand and clarify for our viewers and myself, frankly, is this a possibility or is this something that is based on something that we are hearing being reported out? what i am hearing is it s a concern that democrats have as this goes on. there are not got it. thank you. this is more along the list of things to keep in the back of your mind. this is something to keep in the back of your mind. sure. and we are talking about all the possible things that could happen in the next couple of hours, and this could be why you may join a group of democrats to join a group of republicans to adjourn and reset it and come back tomorrow. democrats could be willing to help mccarthy out. when you are listing off the lists of possibilities, that s

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