i m going to let you finish. is mr. mcatee a liar as well? i had a lot of conversations about mr. mcatee for pardons for other folks and group of people. whether or not lawmakers would have fallen into those groups could be debated or discussed, but was i asking for something specifically for me and only me under the circumstances, the answer would be know. just to be clear, you re denying you sought a pardon for yourself? that s correct. we re joined by emily bazalon. welcome back. thank you. we haven t seen those questions put to gaetz. hasn t come up in some of his other interviews. what do you think of how he handled that? this was a person who seemed to admit or tout many other things that seemed controversial, but denied the under oath accusation from three different white house
cassidy hutchinson is a known liar. there s testimony she s given that directly results in perjury, so i would certainly take exception with her testimony. i do not remember it the same way eric hirschmann does. i did have conversations with him about group of people that could receive pardons, even including some of the people who may have committed a technical violation of law but weren t engage in the violence january 6th. so hold on, now. let me finish here. yes, you may finish. i had a lot of conversations with mr. mcatee about pardons for lawmakers. whether or not lawmakers fell in those groups were discussed. but in term of was i asking for something specifically for me, the answer is no. did you advocate for other lawmakers were mr. mcatee or others? there were discussions about president trump, his family members and ally, and presumably
aide john misenti. tell us about that. reporter: yeah, he had interesting revelations in his transcript, behinding saying that the former president was referring to f ing pence. this is after january 6th, when it happened, when they were prepared to leave the white house and trump was still complaining about pence at that point. he also said in his interview with mcatee, acknowledged that they had pressured to try to delay the transition, this is something that cnn had reported on as it was happening at the time. mcatee also said he heard trump mention a potential blanket pardon for those involved in january 6th. in the transcript he says trump raises this possibility. the white house counsel pushing back saying this isn t a good
momentum has been really positive for reverend warnock. we are seeing turnout, as you mentioned, not only is there or lieutenant good. it is in the right places. the number of counties, the counties attentive trended democratic to see what the percentages are looking like and so far i am with them. don t take anything for granted but he s looking like he is in good shape. sometimes you can tell a lot from what the ad say and just how the tone of them might be. i m wondering, carrie, we look at the different ads. for what we re wondering with senator warnock why isn t he being a little bit more aggressive with herschel walker? and vice versa by the way. there are conversations at some point about whether they were playing the same game or too nice or too harsh. there is a marked ship and how the ads are now running. but in terms of brian kemp he is talking about this as a turnouts and who was more motivated. you ve got the former president donald trump not appearing in