Robbery thats burglary, ill get it right. And in this situation youve got somebody really caught in the middle of it, and that doesnt excuse the person from the consequences. Professors, weve talked about abuse of power and bribery. When we started we said we would also discuss obstruction of congress. So i would like to ask you some questions about obstruction of congress. Professor gerhardt, in your view, is there enough evidence here to charge President Trump with the high crime and misdemeanor of obstruction of congress . I think theres more than enough. As i mentioned in my statement, just to really underscore this, the third article of impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee against president nixon charged him with misconduct because he had failed to comply with four legislative subpoenas. Here it is far more than four
that this president has failed to comply with. And he has ordered the Executive Branch as well not to cooperate with congress. Those together with a
Broadcast on a wednesday night. Thank you so very much for being here with us. Good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Were in the midst of live, ongoing coverage of the house judiciariry committee markup. The two articles ever impeachment against the president of the United States that of course congressman jim jordan of ohio speaking right now. This is a standard part of legislative process, the markup. It happens all time. But tonight obviously its quite difference in the import because it is the most serious constitutional activity the Judiciary Committee can pursue. Tonight the committee will be hearing different amendments and debating the two articles before
them. We expect them to be voted on by the full committee tomorrow. Weve already heard Opening Statements from House Judiciary Chair jerry nadler and Ranking Member doug collins. Heres how the chair presented tonights meeting. Taken together, the two Articles Ch
Obligation to account fully for my role in these events. Did by obligation, you mean simply your legal obligation . Or did you mean something bigger . Well, both my legal obligation and my moral obligation. Your moral obligation . I actually want to present an alternative theory. Your family came here escaping the holocaust via uruguay. And your parents moved lucy and later you here where, frankly, youve been an american success story. Through dent of hard work and innovation, good idea, and knack to hire the right people and some luck, youve built a considerable successful business. One that i know for a fact would make your parents proud. They came here because they knew
that it was here that they could have freedom that they had not enjoyed, security that they had not enjoyed, and opportunity that they had not enjoyed. And no doubt, on some level, youre grateful and its created a sense of patriotism in you. Is that fair to say . Very fair. Why then, sir, with your courage to come be
Much . Maybe but i dont think hes going after it the way he should. Maybe he was telling us less about clinton than he was revealing about himself, donald trump. All in with chris hayes starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Were in the midst of the House Judiciary Committee markup of the two articles of the president of the United States. This is a standard part of the legislative process, thats the markup. It happens all the time. But tonight is obviously quite different in the stakes and import because it is the most serious constitutional undertaking this committee where are the Judiciary Committee can pursue. Tonight the committee will be hearing different amendments and debating the two articles before them. And we expect them to be voted on by the full committee tomorrow. Weve already heard Opening Statements from House Judiciary Chair jerry nadler and ranking
member doug collins. Heres how the chair presented tonights meeting. Taken together the two Auric
Zelenskys inauguration in may, i believe you testified it was one of the largest delegations . I believe it was. I cant be 100 sure. I believe it was the Largest National delegation. Okay. And included in the delegation was Secretary Perry . Secretary perry, ambassador sondland, myself, senator ron johnson was there and also the charge daffaires at the u. S. Embassy at the time, joe pennington. We talked a little bit this morning, but president zelenskys inauguration came together rather quickly . It did. I believe we had about three days notice in which to put the delegation together. Theres been some discussion whether the Vice President was going to be able to lead that effort and as it turned out he was not able to lead it. Do you have any information as to why the Vice President was unable to join . I dont. And mr. Morrison, do you have any information as to why the
Vice President was unable to participate in the delegation . No. Ambassador volker, you testified during your deposi