60-plus courts say that there s no evidence. and they are still apparently going to relitigate, according to his counsel, every issue in the 2020 election for the jury. i think that s an interesting strategy given how little evidence there is that there was any fraud in the 2020 election. matthew, i appreciate your expertise. thank you very much for joining us. up next on ana cabrera reports, new reaction out of trump world to this indictment. a window into one potential strategy. plus, new insight into the pressure campaign on former vp mike pence before january 6th, including a moment where donald trump said pence was, quote, too honest. and there he is. chaz. the rec league s self-crowned pickleball king. do you just bow down? no you de-thrown the king. pedialyte. 3x the electrolytes.
the indictment of donald trump details a targeted campaign to organize a fraudulent slate of electors in seven states, arizona, georgia, michigan, nevada, new mexico, pennsylvania and wisconsin. now according to the indictment, the electors were tasked with mimics the procedures that the legitimate electors were supposed to follow under the constitution and other federal and state laws. blayne alexander is in one of those states, georgia. and joining us matthew sanderson. blayne, you re there in georgia where trump insinuated election fraud. he pressured election officials. there is a separate investigation under way there which we ve been discussing. talk about just a collision of these probes in that state. reporter: well, the first thing i think that is stunning is the timing.
from michigan to arizona, to georgia, exactly what do those conversations entail, and to what extent was donald trump potentially directing them? that is the information that we would be waiting for from the special counsel jack smith. matthew, the three criminal statutes mentioned in this target letter, there s the deprivation of rights under color of law, conspiracy to defraud the u.s. and witness tampering. i want to ask you about that first one. the new york times reports that this statute dates back to post civil war reconstruction, that it was used to help federal agents crack down on kkk members who were stopping recently freed black americans from voting. more recently, according to the times a series of 20th century cases upheld application of the law in cases involving alleged tampering with ballot boxes by casting false votes or falsely tabulating votes after the election was over, even if no
matthew, this seems to be a much more sprawling probe compared to the classified documents case. does that make it harder to prove? no, i think if you re looking at potential conspiracy charges, the fact that this is widespread, it gives you more points of evidence it gives the prosecutor more points of evidence to cite. this was a broad scheme, this was an attempt across seven different states to pressure state legislatures, to pressure state election officials. to pressure the vice president of the united states, to overturn a free and fair election. so it is, you know, just by its nature going to be a broad case, but i don t think that i think that actually helps rather than hurts. matthew sanderson, joyce vance, ryan reilly, vaughn hillyard, thank you all for being part of this discussion. and when we re back in 60 seconds, an onslaught of extreme weather from floods to tornados. who is at risk today? plus, a new flash point over
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