Joy to welcome one of my friendd colleagues who is one of the leg theologians for the last 30 yeas as he has written a lot of theo, spirituality. Dr. Matthew fox is is with us. Great to see you. Thank you. Always great to see you. Great. You have another book out. This is on hildegard. Why hildegard . Well the Catholic Church cand her a saint in october and made her a doctor of the church. Thee have only been three known wome. Its one thing to be a saint bua doctor of the church carries spl energy with it, i guess. Theyre i guess. Theyre saying hey, this is someone to study. I find find it ironic because the currt vatican is not exactly, say, a supporter of women or womens issues. For them to name her a doctor of the church is thoroughly ironic. The last chapter is called is hildegard a a trojan horse . I think she is because shes shaking up the church today just as she did in her time. Because she does brinn the divine feminine, something that the pope is not real at ease talking abou