long been willing to admit what it doesn t know in a way that our government won t and so people talk about you oppose here much more than they do in the united states. the brazilian senate. has helde its first ever public hearings on the matter members g ofet the military explained that they have encountered a lot of ufo showsover, includig a night called the night of the ufo in which five brazilian fighter jets were chased by dozens of unidentified flying objectfi at high speed. things like that happen in theik united states too. we re just beginning to hear about them. so for example, dozens of sailors just told a documentaryv filmmaker called jeremy corbel that they were swarmed by ,ha quote, at least one hundred ufos off the coast of san diego, all of which had physical capabilities that were beyond anything people have made to challenge the laws of physics. what is this exactlysan ? nick pope is a former u.k. ministry of defense officialmi.m we are happy to have him join us tonig