mattal rod, although the department of justice has this guidance about not indicting a sitting president, they re not bound in the state by those same guidelines. so although the supreme court may ultimately decide the constitutional question, there s nothing that would prevent them from charging the president with a crime in the state system. adam, we non-lawyers have become interested in the intricacies in the legal system and that conversation i had earlier with mattal rod about indicting a sitting president. a lot of people don t want to have the conversation about impeachment. 40 percent of americans might be interested, more than half are not, democrats don t want to talk about it and no republicans do but you wrote a remarkable article about what the framers of the constitutions thought about reasons for impeachment. tell us about this. i might have thought that you draw a bright line that the president should be impeached for things he does in office, for abusing the power