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around criminal activity, around grift, around misbehavior and misdeeds at a certain point, democrats have to do something about it, particularly as voters want something done about it. it s not enough to talk around the symbolism but at some point voters are going to want to see tangible action. naacp just voted to impeach trump. what are the democrats going to do about it and are they going to be on the same page. that s important to think about going forward. before we go, for jennifer and matt what, legally changed yesterday if anything? i think what the most important thing that changed yesterday is something my friend judd sugarman brought out in a piece that he wrote and also on twitter which is this. mueller let us know that the olc, the office of legal council opinion, doesn t address the problem of the statutes of limitations. i m a little bit in the weeds.
what i want to say specifically, for example, the statute of limitations on charging the president after he leaves office for let s say obstruction is five years and should the president win re-election, then that s going to run out. and he would then be immune from being held accountable for niece crimes. you re assuming no more crimes afterward. just using that. i m not actually assuming that, but right. even assuming that, and so there s a problem there. and because mueller wouldn t even say that he believed trump had committed a crime, there s no way to even make these allegations now that we can be sure we can make them unless they re done through the constitutional process of impeachment. that s why i think it s so important for the house to simply begin impeachment proceedings so there s a possibility of saying this obstruction is a high crime or misdemeanor. matt? you know, there s a related issue to the one she brought up. it relates to big barr closing
the obstruction investigation after mueller submitted his report. mueller said in the hearing yesterday as he did in the report one of the reasons you investigate the rez for a crime even if you can t indict him he might be able to be charged if he leaves office if the statute hasn t run. it s a scenario where he loses re-election. that would be one thinging if that investigation had just been kind of left open. well, what bill barr did is close the investigation. what that means is should there be a democratic president and a democratic attorney general, they have to make the decision to go back in, reopen it and investigate. that s a big, big thing to ask a brand-new administration to do. what you re saying is exactly what trump lawyer jay sekulow told me last night on the evening of the mueller hearings. they view the issue as closed and not worried about post presidential indictment because barr moved the goal post. someone would have to undo that. bill, leah, jennifer and matt,
benefit the world s wealthiest individuals. that s not the way to run a country and if we keep doing that, we ll have civil unrest world wide. if we don t want to see that in america, then we need to make the wealthiest pay their fair share, like the rest of us. rick: matt, the last word. you can respond to that or talk about europe, whatever you want. yeah. europe has tried big, big government, big government programs, centralized authority, one currency, they passed cap and trade, which was foolish. now their debt has grown so big, it s unsustainable. the problem for america is its debt is so big, we have no money to help them. they ll have to find their way out by selling industries that are currently operated by the government, sell them to private investors, including those in america. we ve got to find a new way to get out of this and it s called no more spending. rip up the credit card. rick: gentlemen, thank you so much. good discussion. we ll have you both on again real