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scars also self-inflicted. as well as, for example, photos and videos of the outs on the rio grande literally the cartels just watch them. they watch us. anare just securing the border making sure no one crosses illegally at least without paying them. griff: matt, have you seen first hand how serious of a threat. what does this mean for the nation? oh, i mean, i can tell you that i saw firsthand the torture marks, the burn marks on people. americans and migrants alike who have been abused by the cartels. i have so many people so many stories to share about individuals whose family members were murdered by the cartels. it means that they are national security threat. if we need to protect our country, as well as protect everyone that s both on the border and inside the u.s. and elsewhere, we have to shut them down. griff: we have personal observations of yours, overturned vehicles that you have documented. you see them there on your

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