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left me bring matt milner. there is a thing about the way men and women who have worked in the justice department talk about they refer to it as the department and talk about it with love. and it s just a thing. i ve known enough people who served the department to have heard it, and there is a and maybe it s different from the war with the intelligence community because they re morpublic facing jobs. the president is more aware of them. attacks them more frequently. there s some reporting he s not that interested in foreign policy but the justice department they re investigating him is in his mind, in his sights every day. yeah, it s true. there is a culture at the justice department of independence that really gets kind of i think they put it in the water in the fountains because it gets built into everyone that works there. even for a short period of time, everyone at that department knows that the worst thing you can do is to bow to political will either from the presiden
wanted to defend him. normally what you see, this is a high-profile case. you believe in the person, the member of your party so you want to be in that fight. and the fact there s a lot of subpoenas coming in doesn t scare you away. what s interesting about this, george conway and now this group of lawyers that he s summoned together earlier this week, there s especially in the legal community, it s true a lot of republican politicos have thrown aside their principles and have just become trumpists. but there is, in the world of both legal theory, legal scholars and also in the high end of white shoe lawyering in washington, d.c., the lawyers on the republican side who normally would love this kind of case are like, no, no, no because not just because they think trump may have done something wrong but they know he ll be at war with the justice department, the fbi and they re institutionalists. they don t want to be on the side of a president who is going to fight by attacking those i