we don t understand its society. we don t understand the root cause. we don t understand a whole host of things. what happens and what you re seeing is our young guys and gals over there, who are getting killed still in report numbers are getting caught in the midst of a tribal or ethnic conflict, they re call in between stuff that resembles hatfield and mccoy type violence, and it s cost us us not just our lives, but about $120 billion a year. i can t tell you what we re doing there. it s pointless and crazy. matt, we re out of time. but matthew hoh, thank you for joining us. thanks, cenk. up next, wisconsin voters head to the polls in what appeared tore a referendum on scott walker s collective bargaining bill. how the supreme court race could shift the balance of power in that state and how important that outcome is.
matt, look, i say look at the protests, and two things jump out, first, let s be realistic about this. this isn t just because of the a koran burning. this has to do with our presence and occupation for the last ten years, right? yeah, absolutely, cenk. thanks for having me on. i don t know if i m the best person to answer what the hell are we doing there? i as well as many others have argued we should be de-escalating is the conflict. this is the afghan people who have been at war for 30 years, who have seen most of mouse 30 years include foreign occupation democrat stralting they re tired of it. they re tired of the occupation, they re tired of the war, they re tired of a select elite getting rich off foreign aid money. so what you saw in reaction
look, my beliefs are independent of what you think about them. my beliefs don t get their feelings hurt. how weak are your beliefs that you re like, my god, somebody offended me, i have to kill somebody else. that makes no sense. i know pastor jones is a loon, but in this country you get to be a loon. if the afghans don t like that, that s too bad for them. we live in a free country and 24eshd figure that out, but apparently we have wasted over ten years in that country, because they can t begin to understand that concept. in your world view, if you disagree with someone, you kill them, or kill some random u.n. officials. that s not. i don t know what the hell we ve been doing in afghanistan. apparently we ve made no progress whatsoever, but somebody s going to try to explain it to me. matt hose, he resigned in protest in the war in afghanistan. matt is now the director of the afghanistan study group.