president obama as well. we were just talking about and we ll see how this all shakes out. but lauren boebert being in the mix as a possible vote present, which could indicate that that as i said, you could have one kevin, one present. there are still several ways to get to three. but does that surprise you at all? we saw that video of her well, on another network kind of fighting with an anchor and her kind of in the well of the senate saying it s time for kevin mccarthy to go away and we re not going away, he needs to go away. so, yeah, it is and there s been a lot of discussion about her last race. she barely won. she squeaked it out by the hair on her chinny chin-chin. you wouldn t expect her to go down with kind of the matt gaetzes of the world who are in
only represent a minority of the party are but they have this outsized platform. it s ridiculous. i had to kind of smile after one of the last votes thinking, well, great, now they only have to convince 198 more republicans to come their way. they re just not going to do it. there may be some shift, but the reality is the majority of the republican conference is not going to give in to these demands it s really i think we have to walk through this. i say we as a country, me as private citizen, a part of this. it s not helpful in any way. if anything, i would argue it hurts whatever their cause is. one of the things that strikes me about watching the house republican conference change over the last few years is that you have the extremes, the matt gaetzes of the world, the gosars, boeberts. then you have a lot of house republicans who have kind of
already lined up against him, maybe as many as 14, as you say, poppy. the other thought i have is when you look at the five who are the never kevin mccarthys, the matt gaetzes, i can t imagine they ll have a change of heart between now and tomorrow. that s what causes me to say he s not going to get there on the first ballot, and it could go on for a while. i don t think anybody knows how it ends. you can t beat somebody with nobody. there s got to be the emergence of someone else if it s not going to be kevin mccarthy. and who could that be? michael, i had so much i wanted to ask you. i do not only watch your show go. he s right there. i know they re going to say, don, come on. who is that? that s what i want to ask you. number two, you had a pollster on who i found amazing when he talked about the polls that he did, focus groups he did regarding donald trump and there was another thing i can t remember that i wanted to talk to you about. who is it and why do you think
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