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Why do you feel that americans should have those if your belief is they just have to defend themselves . Well, before i go any further, piers, first, thanks for having me back. We did have a heated discussion last time and i much appreciate this more calm discussion. Second, on behalf of im sure i speak for the entire board of Michigan Coalition of responsible gun owners we offer our Sincere Condolence and sympathies for the victims and their families. We are all about safety. We all want to be safe and we certainly want children to be safe. Like i said last week, we just disagree on how to get there from here. To answer your question, i would point out that the shooter in the mall in oregon was confronted by a legally armed citizen who pointed his gun at the shooter and then decided not to squeeze the trigger because he was afraid of missing and hitting bystanders. He was acting very responsibly. And the next shot that that shooter fired, that the killer fired, was on himself after he

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