donald trump is not willing to show up on the debate stage. chaos follows him and we can t have a country this disarray. taking their shot, ron desantis and nikki haley trying to take down the frontrunner donald trump on live tv. and plus phoning it in, trump warns iowa supporters not to sit back next week over speaker phone. and joe biden heads to battleground pennsylvania today to set the tone for his 2024 re-election bid. good morning, happy friday. we made it. it is 5:00 a.m. in washington and 4:00 a.m. in des moines where ron desantis and nikki haley each made their case that they are the better choice to face president biden in the fall. the democrats want trump to be the candidate. they are going to talk about all the legal tough, january 6, that will be what the election will be about. you don t want to be a infrastructure on trufrnl and the past. you want to be a referendum on booi biden s failures and our positive vision. and you need somebody that can ser
be a woman presidential candidate. because she obviously has enjoyed this kind of surge of momentum during hillary clinton s run for president back in 2016, there was a lot of attention paid to this issue. haley herself has been attacked for having is he had things that, you know, positive things about hillary clinton as a trailblazing woman candidate, not about, you know you know, they disagree on policy obviously. but haley had a chance to answer this question for herself last night. take a look at how haley responded. as a country i think america has been ready for a woman, but it has to be the right woman. i m one of those i don t think and i think a lot of women will agree to this, we don t support women just because they are women. we love to see women do well. i think women are rock stars. i love to see women do well. but a president is a big deal. and it is a serious issue.
i agree with a lot of his policies. but the reality is rightly or wrongly, chaos follows him. and we all know that is true. chaos follows him. and we can t have a country in disarray and a world on fire and go through four more years of chaos. we won t survive it. those jabs at trump representing an overall departure from the dynamics that have defined this presidential race so far. and certainly from the dynamics that the campaigns are putting money behind. desantis and haley have been much more focused on attacking each other, not the guy who is actually beating both of them in the polls. so can haley or desantis move the needle? let s bring in daniel strauss to talk more about this. great to see you. the town halls last night, how they answer trump questions, typically not a message that they are putting money behind on
moment. those things are not equivalent. the concern about democracy being expressed by president biden, which you re right was dismissed by a lot of pundits who said he should be focused on kitchen table issues. biden made the democracy argument last time is and it resinates. aren t republicans are concerned. you can have is a great debate. but the fact that 25% of folks think that january 6th was an inside job, that s a function of disinformation that s been prop ul gaited by donald trump directly. it s particularly with valley forge. we go through these moments every once in awhile in our history. this is one of them. it s not just biden saying it. it s former trump staffers. i think one of the biggest problems i have with all this is that in having these kinds of debates t makes it more divided than more united. i know it s important that you re right. i understand that. but i m all for uniting, but it means a clear contrast.
countries to try to improve those in the same way as america is trying to do in central america. and if you look at the language, you megsed edmentioned it, she emphasizing this is not charity, it is investment. and i think the left will be impressed by that, experts will be impressed by that, but what she is trying to convince is the right, that this is not charity, we re not just giving money away as a left wing policy. it is actually investment in the future. i think what will be interesting about her case is whether she can convince the right that investing in africa is the right solution and maybe america the american right can take lessons from that. can they use a similar type of language. because she is pretty far right a lot of people would argue. yeah, we ll see when the american right starts taking lessons from european politicians. but we ve seen people like steve bannon head over there in