tonight, new reporting that donald trump s former chief of staff has appeared before the grand jury. why mark motors test of money could be the key for federal mastications into his former boss. then chris christie has officially thrown his hat in the 2024 ring. in an already crowded republican field. a huge surprise in sports, a golf merger no one saw coming. as the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. good evening once again, i m stephanie ruhle. stunning new revelations involving donald trump s final chief of staff in the special counsel s investigation. the new york times reports, mark meadows has testified before a grand jury in jack smith s investigation, according to two people briefed on the matter. the times points out meadows is a key figure in both of the
brewing between jim jordan and the justice department as the republican congressman kicks off his vendetta mastications into the biden administration. the doj already pushing back on some of jordan s requests. warning it will not provide certain information involving ongoing investigations including the probe into president biden s handling of classified documents. the letter says doing so risk, quote, jeopardizing those investigations in creating the appearance that congress may be exerting improper political pressure or attempting to influence department decisions in certain cases. does this rebuke from the justice department cut the legs out from under jim jordan s planned probes? or, will he use his response to escalate his feud with attorney general merrick garland. nbc legal analyst joyce sand intellect all of that discussion and she joins me now. joyce, good morning.
investigation, when we discover things, it s my personal opinion. if we discover things, that indicate criminal activity, we should. we have a responsibility to share them with the department of justice. as the chairman indicated, we certainly want to work with them. to facilitate and mastications. where that is a feasible. at this point in our investigation. do you have confidence in the doj that they will act? that the department of justice will act on the information you uncovered? i have confidence in the rule of law, those people who are appointed, and serve in those positions, to enforce the law. as we move forward, i see this investigation. we don t have a lot of details, investigations like this go on and away. it s to protect the information as it is gathered. it is clear, that this is growing in size, growing in scale, if you look at seditious conspiracy. the number of people involved, who have been charged with that. i do have confidence, they are picking up the pace, i
that is the subject of two mastications going on in new york, one criminal and one civil. trump pleads the fifth and then a civil investigation, how could that impact the criminal case against him? yeah. it is a really interesting dynamic, michael. as you pointed out. donald trump has famously criticize people for invoking the fifth amendment privilege against self incrimination. of course, it is a legitimate privilege. all of us have the ability to do it. if you invoke it and say a deposition, it means that the fact that you invoked it can t even be used against you and any subsequent criminal case because you have a presumption of innocence. no duty to testify. a jury can t know that you have the ability. if there should be civil trial and the question came up about what trump s answer was during his deposition, the jury would be permitted to know that he had invoked his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. they can draw an adverse