particularly the down market or mass market end of fleet streets operates. hacking into the telephones, hacking into the telephones of deceased individuals? i think i think that it has these practices, and this certainly seems to be commonly conceded now in the pubs around where murdoch s papers are based in east london, that these sorts of practices have been very widespread for a very long time. of course, what you and i are talking about now is a particular practice which became accessible only through modern technology, but if you went back 15 years, you d find that the ink-stained wretches of fleet street had all kinds of ways to get at a story. have you to remember that compared to them i m not excusing what they do. i m talking about the facts of life as they see them. compared to them, you and i are