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yesterday s failure, doug is right, it not necessarily a failure, you learn a lot from failures. ask tesla and the writ wright brothers, unless you are ready to go in boots on ground, for a regime change that is only way you will see something happen. doug, you know, certainly, no one is looking for instance gatcasion but what gratification but what about that warning in few short years, kim jong-un will have nuclear missiles and warheads that could get to us. that is the great fear, jay is right to say we ll not have a quick fix, but on the other hand if we get to the point where they credibly have a nuclear threat against us, the possibility of unilateral action by us have to be on the table. nobody wants it, it would lead to tens of thousands of cas