also mary kcatherine and jackie. so, jackie, the president says this meeting between his son and a russian lawyer, along with jared kushner, paul manafort, was all very standard. i want to get your take. well, if it was very standard, why didn t they just come out and say that with the first explanation that donald trump jr. gave. they didn t. they said a couple different things, and then finally, he released his e-mails once the new york times was going to publish their story. so that s problematic. not only that, this isn t happening in a vacuum. this is the latest, the closest trump adviser to, it turns out, have contact with the russians during the campaign when they said that when trump himself said that didn t happen. so, because of that, it just continues to erode the credibility of the white house and the president when it comes to this issue, and him dismissing this as something