conservative bloc is sitting down for its fifth day of discussions with the center left s.p.d. led by martin shuls now the two sides are said to have made progress on issues like taxation and clean energy but have left the more sensitive policy disagreements until today if successful the parties will enter into formal coalition to go she ations if not germany could face fresh elections and that means an uncertain future for chancellor merkel. let s bring in our political correspondent michelle and krisna with us here in studio michelle good morning to you what is the thirty percent that is keeping the two sides apart. well there s a lot on substance and now this new is the self set finishing line that i believe could well be extended into friday that s not hold our breath on that. it gets to the issues that are really at the hospital what these parties stand for and there we see taxation the question of social justice here in germany was something that the democrats really tried to fig