mandela came out of prison after 27 years and became the first black president of south africa, he invited his prison guard to sit in the front row of his inauguration, and that is the spirit of nelson mandela that i think president obama was representing. he didn t have a long, drawn-out conversation. he shook the man s hand. and in this world, in this day and age, that should at least be what we can do. bill: jehmu, thank you for your thoughts, michael graham, thank you as well. we put this question out earlier not about kanye west, by the way. but we put it out earlier, pretty interesting responses. martha: yes, what do you think? should the president have shaken hands with raul castro? bill: albert writes: what would mr. romney have done or president reagan? martha: and dottie says just look at his body language, he was just working the rope line, had no idea who he was, according to dottie. bill: old saying, keep your friends close and your enemies
should. and if they consistently get behind it, then the message will start to martha: well, that goes exactly to what bill o reilly says. but, you know, the classic discussion here is that there s the tea party side, and then there s the, you know, chris christie side that is more of a moderate future candidate, perhaps. and, you know, the party clearly is very torn on which way they should go. that s the biggest elephant in the room here, right? i would agree. and i think that to say that there s a tea party side and a chris christie side is a mischaracterization. conservatives and most republicans care about one thing: bold solutions. and that s part of the branding problem that the republican party has not done, propose bold solutions and everybody will rally around it. but i agree with bill, there s too much divisiveness within the republican party. martha: all right. i got to gotta go, but who do you think should be on that
of colorado, so a state employeement now the implication is that the state was warned of the murder a week before beforehand and did nothing about it. when mr. holmes lawyers learned of, they wanted to know who told you this, how did you learn about it. and she declined to tell them who. bill: it is breaking news now. judge, thanks, pleasure to have you on. pleasure, bill. be. bill: in such short order, too. martha: well, it could be the image from the mandela funeral talking today, president obama and cuba s ruler raul castro, a little handshake. should that have happened? we re getting a lot of interesting tweets on it right now, fair and balanced, coming up. bill: also, why scientists say an amazing discovery could change everything we know about the old red plain. martha: really?
that says paul ryan and patty murray who, you know, strange bed fellows, very different philosophies on how these things should get done. but that they had the space to do the deal because, you know, the whole world is focused on health care. do you think that s truesome. well, i hi that health care i think that health care created the motivation for them. it created the motivation for their colleagues to allow them to reach a deal that was possible. so normally what we d have, martha, is republicans pushing for massive entitlement cuts, massive spending cuts, democrats pushing for a lot more spending, you know, for tax increases and all of that. and as we ve seen over the past couple of years, they come to blows over it, they can t agree, we end up on the brink of a shutdown or default. and having gone through the government shutdown, republicans don t want to try that again, nor do they want to distract from the problem that is the affordable care act.
list, the leader, the standard bearer and could be that person who could pull it all together? well, there isn t a leader on that list right now, in my humble opinion. so i believe that it s still too early to tell. martha: all right. maybe it ll be with herman cain. mr. cain you never know. [laughter] martha: thank you very much. good to see you as always. bill: jenna lee standing by, happening now rolls your way in a couple minutes. how are you, jenna? jenna: hi there, bill. congressman darrell issa is here to break some news on the security of the health care web site. that ll be at the top of the hour. also new reports of technical issues for both the national healthcare.gov web site and for the web site that serves the state of washington. so we ll dig deeper into that. also there s been some who warn there may be with a doctor shortage under obamacare, but one of our guests begs to differ we ll explain, coming up. bill: jenna, see you then, top of the hour. here you go, w