$13.89 million in stimulus money because you have a few bundlers on the team. you have to explain what the question is. does that pass the journalistic smell test? it does not disqualify to you work for this administration and it hasn t disqualified you in any previous administration to have been a supporter. martha: joined by howard dean, former campaign manager. and joe tri joe trippe. nobody wants to answer these questions about whether people who give a lot of money get political influence. george bush didn t do it, clinton didn t do it, it never handed before. martha: stimulus money which is a separate matter. not surprising. lots of presidents give reward to people who give a lot of
insurgents, or al-qaida fighters, but a small group of mexican drug cartel bandits, heavily armed with ak-47 assault rifles. brian did ultimately come home that christmas. we buried him not far from the house that he was raised in just prior to christmas day. when did you learn about fast and furious and its connection to your son s death? most of it i heard is from the media. martha: boy, unbelievable. william la jeunesse joins me now working on this story from the very beginning. william. reporter: well, martha agents paint a picture of the atf and the top law enforcement agency in this country the department of justice of looking the other way, even helping mexican cartels arm themselves to the teeth at u.s. gun stores. the atf let known cartel buyers
spoke with in the family. i smoke with the mother and the step-mother and the father. listen, we are here today, the commissioner is here today, the chief of the border patrol is here today, and we are here, and his comrades are here with the family who said other things to me, by the way, so i really don t think it appropriate for the media to try to pick this as a fight. this is a moment to remember a fallen agent. reporter: bottom line, the family of brian terry has been questioning the government and the border security since the day brian died. they were outspoken they say even before then because brian himself was outspoken. we should note, one person so far has beeno person hasbeen chf agent brian terry. martha: we are learning disturbing new information about this program. a former atf agent who worked with this group admitted today
homicide because you are missing that piece of ballistic evidence. that s where you would rely on witnesses or other physical evidence. i know two of the guns that were involved in this case were traced back to the scene of agent terry s murder but i have no knowledge of anything beyond that. that s an fbi investigation and they have not shared any of that information with me nor would they have a reason to. martha: essentially someone knows whether the bullet that lodged in this body, if that were the case, that they would know exactly which gun it had come from if the gun was found at scene and the bullet with us recovered, correct? 99% of the time. there are times when the bullet gets so disfigured it s difficult. but if you recover the row joke tile and the firearm there is the ability to make a match. martha: your testimony was interesting in all of this. i know this whole thing has not been easy for you.
container. reporter: we learned that joe thompson, a convicted kidnapper has been added to the witness list by the defense just yesterday. according to the defense based on their own investigators contacted or was contacted by george anthony four times on july 14, 2008. that s the day before cindy anthony made those infamous 911 calls reporting caylee was missing. martha: thank you very much. phil keying in florida. people who watch this case each day are still talking about what happened yesterday in this moment. you can see her mouthing words there, cindy anthony, casey s mom as thee mouths those words. people in the courtroom said she basically looked at her and mouthed the words i love you