Thates a thats a kind of funny sentence. For Justice Breyer, you may hear hat all the time, but not if you are sitting on the massachusetts court. I think the reaction did take me by surprise. Do you think your experience growing up at in apartheid south africa strengthen you in anyway for the kinds of courageous could positions you took on the court . No. [laughter] i mean, when you become a judge, you bring to that position your entire life history, and when you are sitting on the court, you work very hard to put aside your personal views. And so and gay marriage really was not part of my thinking in south africa. In fact, gay marriage had not been part of my thinking in the United States. So i did not make a onetoone connection. My life had been involved with issues of race discrimination, deeply involved in issues of gender discrimination to some extent, involved in issues of this ability law, but i can recall and i do not say this proudly, but looking at the extent of how much thi