kinds of stories come out where literally the head of the epa is renting apparently below market condo from an energy lobbyist and remember those attacks during the campaign? you know, look, i think trump has always been someone whether in business or in politics as someone who says one thing and does exactly the opposite. you know, he stiffs his contractors. he stiffed his workers and now he s stiffing the american people. so his idea, if this is his idea of draining the swamp, i think all of washington is going to drown in it. john podesta, thank you for making some time. thanks, chris. with me former governor christie todd whitman. as someone who had this job, does this arrangement that he was renting from the wife of an energy lobbyist, is that okay, is that kosher? of course not.
cost consumers literally billions of dollars and expose more kids to the risk of asthma or whether it s his reversal on the clean power plan or whether it s you know, his decision not to ban this dangerous agricultural chemical, i guess he s doing what the president wants him to be doing. and if you have to give him some grudging credit, he s somewhat more effective at it than someone like ben carson or some of the other cabinet officers. i think that s probably right on the money. i have to ask this finally. obviously, you were on the clinton campaign and you ran against donald trump who relentlessly attacked hillary clinton and people in the clinton circle for being corrupt, for self-dealing, for the swamp, et cetera. what is it like to watch these kinds of stories come out where literally the head of the epa is renting apparently below market
what is it like to watch these kinds of stories come out where literally the head of the epa is renting apparently below market condo from an energy lobbyist and remember those attacks during the campaign? you know, look, i think trump has always been someone whether in business or in politics as someone who says one thing and does exactly the opposite. you know, he stiffs his contractors. he stiffed his workers and now he s stiffing the american people. so his idea, if this is his idea of draping the swamp, i think all of washington is going to drown in it. john podesta, thank you for making some time. thanks, chris. with me former governor christie todd whitman. as someone who had this job, does this arrangement that he was renting from the wife of an energy lobbyist, is that okay, is that kocher? of course not. we did everything to make sure