lot of trump exhaustion in the republican electorate, not enough potential told mean he won t get the nomination but there s much more than has been since he s been on the scene, this kind of thing certainly won t help politically speaking. i want to play what the foreperson said about mark meadows, the former chief of staff. let s listen. mr. meadows didn t share very much at all. was not very willing to speak on much of anything, asserted his rights and under the fifth amendment and executive privilege, which he absolutely had the right to do. ok, again, i m shocked. grand jury testimony is supposed to be secret only people in that room are the grand jurier, prosecutors and the witnesses, and here she s talking about the substance of mark meadows testimony and talked in other outlets about the substance of other people s testimony and what the grand
after me. you know, we ve seen that with some of these statements even today. but in this time, when there s a lot of trump exhaustion in the republican electorate, not enough potentially to mean that he won t get the nomination, but there is much more than there has been since he s been on the scene. this kind of thing certainly won t help politically speaking. i want to play, ali, what the foreperson said also about mark meadows, the former chief of staff. let s listen. mr. meadows did not share very much at all. he was not very willing to speak on much of anything. he asserted his rights, under the fifth amendment, and under executive privilege. which he absolutely had the right to do. okay, again, just shocked. grand jury testimony is supposed to be secret. the only people in that room that we on the room of the grand jurors, like this person we just saw, prosecutors, and the witnesses. here, she s talking about the substance of mark meadows testimony. she has spoken on
to bed, or at least reduces the likelihood that he himself is a target of the investigation. the justice department is less likely to subpoena somebody who s the target. on the other hand, jack smith is actually a very aggressive rustic eater, so maybe he is going after somebody who s a target. so it doesn t even take that fully off the table, which could be significant. what does it ultimately made when he claims, as it was clear from what evans was saying, he ll claim executive privilege. let stand up? how long does that drag out? so i think it jack smith once mark meadows testimony, jack smith will get mark meadows testimony. i think if he does executive privilege, it s a loser, it s a unanimous, unambiguous supreme court case with a sitting president and a former chief of staff. the judge in this case, cnn has reported, has already decided against executive privilege with the white house counsel, deputy white house counsel. the done. the supreme court had an opportunity to gran
medias what a day podcast. and my friend, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. joyce vance, let s turn to you first. this subpoena what does it tell you jack smith s subpoenaing mark meadows? we ve been talking about it for months and months and now it dropped. so it seems entirely expected to me that the special counsel would try to get mark meadows testimony. there are a lot of meticulous details involved in a situation like this. chief among them is the issue of whether or not meadows is a target of the special counsel s investigation. it is unusual but not unheard of to subpoena a target to appear in front of a grand jury. and we just don t know the answer yet. so there are these intriguing possibilities. i think the bottom line here, steph, is that it s very unlikely that meadows would
the new york times. juanita tolliver, msnbc political analyst and hope of crooked media s what a day podcast. and my friend, former u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. joyce vance, let s turn to you first. this subpoena what does it tell you jack smith s subpoenaing mark meadows? we ve been talking about it for months and months and now it dropped. so it seems entirely expected to me that the special counsel would try to get mark meadows testimony. there are a lot of meticulous details involved in a situation like this. chief among them is the issue of whether or not meadows is a target of the special counsel s investigation. it is unusual but not unheard of to subpoena a target to appear in front of a grand