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former new york prosecutor and fizzle civil rights attorney, our friend charles, and katie, i turn to you first because it is your colleagues at the new york times that had the scoop on this new filing. trump's lawyers seem to be new attack plan on jack smith classified documents case in florida. what's this all about? >> this is a pretty typical filing that happens before a trial begins when the defense is trying to figure out what kind of information it is going to get. however, it's really telling because it always gives the prosecution a sense of what is the defense interested in and of course, that means what might they want to use to buttress the government's argument? in this case, we are looking at a couple of things, including the idea that some of his information might not have been too damaging to national security. and this is not the craziest argument in the world. i mean, keep in mind, there's been a long time argument that the government over classified

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