had this experience, say that it is actually a good thing for the white house staff for the president to have a lawyer or a team of lawyers, so that when they sit in front of the press and they get bombarded with questions as they are going to, and as they have, their answer can be, i don t know, ask the president s lawyer, john doe, in the clinton administration it was lanny davis. so it is helpful for the white house staff if they want to try to focus on what the president campaigned on. governing. governing, right. what s interesting too is it s not just the president lawyering up, but white house officials. there is a sense of concern of potential panic. when you look at mark kasowicz, who was hired by president trump, he doesn t have a lot of experience in counterintelligence investigations but he does have a close relationship with donald trump.
shepard: the president is lawyering up, if you will, in response to this russia probe. yeah, you mentioned that he s hired mark kasowicz. he was involved in trying to get a story retracted from the new york times. he will be leading up the legal team that will handle the stuff with the outside counsel, robert mueller. one thing his appointment does, it takes joe lieberman out of the running for the fbi director. he s a partner at the firm that kasowicz is with. david freedman is now the ambassador to israel. he s not with the law firm anymore. so lieberman out. there were other concerns that the president liked lieberman but he was also 75 years old, shep and it s a ten-year appointment. so they may be searching there. they re casting the net wider now for somebody that may be in his late 40s or 50s, shep. shepard: john roberts on the road with the president in