said when i ve asked if he s a subject of the investigation, they have all said, of course, he is. the only question is whether or not he s a target. whether or not he s been informed of the fact that he s a subject. they also posit that it s possible that that s one of the reasons that the relationship with dowd may have broken up. what is the significance of that? of being a subject of the investigation. a subject is the next step before one is formally indicted. now, to be fair, most subjects don t end up getting indictment, but it makes a difference with regard to things like whether you go in and talk to the prosecutor. if you re a target, you absolutely don t do that. you take the fifth because you know you won t be indicted. and you couldn t share a lawyer with someone like mark curallo who may be a witness, offered intimidating information about the president. if you re part of an investigation by the grand jury and 16 of the best prosecutors in the country and the fbi wh
the job, joseph digenova and victoria tensing, conflicted out, suggested their client, former trump legal team spokesman mark curallo, offered testimony damaging to trump. in new reporting from vanity fair, a former acting solicitor general under president obama, has this provocative analysis. the conflict of interest issue was apparent on tuesday, and yet we were told they were joining the team and mark curallo, with the most significant conflict, waived any concern. dowd resigns. by sunday digenova and tensing are gone leaving the president with two lawyers. vanity fair reports, that strange development means mueller, when they see someone doing something profoundly dangerous to their self-interest will raise it with the defendant and suggest they rethink it.
the fbi, that was a fact we didn t know before. now his lawyer has to take responsibility for that tweet. who wants to deal with a client like that? you want to deal with a client who will follow your advice and at least make reasonable calculations based on it and this president has shown himself to be someone who does not follow legal advice. i think for those two reasons, many lawyers are not going to want to touch this case. and you are you are correct. two more say no today. barbara mcquade, congressman joaquin castro, thank you so much. when we come back, we have seen the future and she is glorious. jen palmieri s new book dear madam president, and her advice for the new generation of leaders.