kari lake, congressman matt gaetz, and marjorie taylor greene, who actually advised trump to be a no-show. i told him, i said, no, there is no need for you to debate. your winning the primary, he is winning by absurd numbers. so, there is no reason for a president who has the best for your record in my lifetime, i m almost 50 years old, best for your record i ve ever known, to step on the debate stage with candidates that no one s voting for. joining me now is former florida congressman msnbc told an april ryan, senior white house correspondent. it s such a pleasure to have you here for my sunday morning power political panel. david, let s start with you, we just played that sound of marjorie taylor greene defending donald trump. she is expected to be in milwaukee during the debate. what is she trying to accomplish? i think she is just vying for that vp slight. sure she is.
katie, please don t make me agree with marjorie taylor greene on the sunday morning. despite the fact i disagree with it great for years, she is right, there is no reason politically for donald trump to show up for the debate. you know, his evangelist like marjorie taylor greene, gaetz, they re there, they may cause some problems. i think the thing is, what is the contrast that donald trump went with those debates? it is telling that he said, there will be no surrender in georgia until sometime thursday and friday after the debate. suggest that even donald trump does not necessarily want the contracts of the debate to be his own arraignment in his own trial in georgia. he wants it to be that he is the former president, he is a candidate of one in this field, there are no others to consider. so, look, i don t know if the tucker carlson interview will be effective. i think what he s trying to frame is, i m the only candidate in this race, i don t need to show up, i m the former president
that includes all of north georgia. some of the most conservative areas east of the mississippi. that congressional district, for example, that elected marjorie taylor greene. that would be a huge benefit to someone like mark meadows and donald trump. remember, in that jury trial you only need one juror to hold out. you are much more likely to get it if you are able to get all of northern georgia in on that. katie, we are expecting, if this keeps does get removed, potty with it or t would be sworn in as a special u.s. attorneys. we are still talking about the same prosecution team. we are still talking about state, not federal, laws. what changes are the judge in the jury. if someone is convicted, the presidential pardon would not apply. barb, let s talk about that judge in state court right now. judge mcafee. a young judge the bench, just appointed in january of 2023. we mentioned in the last hour of my show that cameras are allowed in the courtroom. you and i haven t been in