absorbing these higher prices? we me now, marjorie clifton and republican strategist, noel clifford. i saw on npr, a poll, the number 1 problem, the number 1 issue by far was inflation. deep second was wages. what do you make of it? yeah, charles, i mean, look, this is what is happening. you have inflation in every area. i was just talking to a friend of minerlier that has a company called forttruss anchorers. you re seeing it in every space. you have the housing market. forget about getting a pool in your back yard. there s a two-year wait. bicycles, everything. it s affecting every aspect, every avenue. by the way, it s laura fink with us, not marjorie. i apologize, laura. no worries.
shannon: marjorie and jason, thank you both very much. hearing the reports that there were problems with foundations and the kinds of things, it does seem like a tenuous connection that we then jumped to the infrastructure bill when these are real families that are sitting there greeting. john: clearly they are are republican infrastructure problems and private infrastructure problems. there are deficiencies i need to be repaired, but i remember when the i-35 west bridge collapsed in minneapolis, and that is an example that you ve got to keep your infrastructure. in terms of spending, that wall street journal editorial made the point that a lot of these entitlements are according to the bill scheduled to expire, but they likely never will. shannon: right. who is going to do it. john: that takes you out of the 10-year window, which means you can do it in reconciliation. you need 60 votes. shannon: yeah, and almost nobody thinks that congress is going to actually let those
jason chaffetz is a former chairman of the house committee on oversight and reform. marjorie clifton is a former obama campaign consultant. welcome to both of you. thank you. thank you. shannon: it is the entitlements. goes on to say it s entitlements been based on eligibility, impossible to reform. these programs, the specific ones in the biden plan are not intended as those down on their luck. they are explicitly designed to make the middle class dependent on government handouts. jason, you know we all remember the commercial, someone depicting then speaker paul ryan. you try to touch entitlements, it is a very difficult argument to make. yeah, the better argument is that we need to fix them so that they are there for the future. the problem is in congress, the way that we do things, since the
marjorie clifton. tom, we don t have a break down on the cost of these initiatives. we know the federal government carries a big lever when it comes to prioritizing project in this case that will boost minority lending initiatives. how do you think this will go? well, i don t know. joe biden talked about we had too long had this narrow i have of a zero sum. i win, you lose-type of thing. he talked more in terms of rising tide lifts all votes. that s the sort of the republican philosophy. joe biden is now employing it, but employing it in the sense that the government is the one going to lift the tide by all of the spending, and all of this investment. he s going to do what he can to shrink the racial wealth gap.