we were together all the time. tom admitted to the jury he did once flirt with carrie zuk, but he said that happened three years prior to the murder during a brief time when he and dar were arguing more than they were communicating. that put quite a bit of distance between us, and it also led to intimacy problems between her and i. tom says he eventually told dar about his feelings for carrie. he also says he went to counseling to work on their communication problems. after those session, did things get better? absolutely. then why was it so easy for tom to become intimate with marianne crandall so soon after dar s death? it was like three weeks after dar died. yes. and you re in the house where dar died. yeah. what am i to think of that? think that i don t care about
please state your full name for the record and spell your last name. caroline zuk. carrie zuk taught at the same school as dar and was known at school as dee dee. that s how carrie met tom. he told me that he was thinking about leaving dee dee. according to carrie, tom also revealed he had feel also for her and later he tried to kiss her. what was your reaction to that? i didn t want anything to do with it. the prosecution wasn t done. this woman took the stand. please state your full name for the record and spell your last name. marianne victorian crandall. out of the presence of the jury, marianne crandall told the court that, like carrie zuk, she met tom through dar, and a couple of weeks after dar s murder, marianne stopped by the farm to offer tom support. i don t mean to embarrass you, but you had sex with tom in his living room?
he tried to. and it was stopped. who tried and who stopped? he tried, and we both stopped. you don t have a sexual relationship with somebody within two weeks after your wife s been murdered in that house. but the jury never heard marianne crandall s testimony because there was no indication of a romantic relationship prior to dar s murder, the judge ruled, just as he did in first trial, that her testimony was prejudicial and, therefore, inadmissible. it was a huge blow to the prosecution s case. it supports the position that they weren t this deeply in love couple that he kept trying to present. i mean, that would have proven that. but norris still had her two key witnesses, tom s own son heath and heath s friend skyler watty, both two years older and now more certain than ever about what they saw and heard the day dar was killed.
you don t have a sexual relationship with somebody within two weeks after your wife s been murdered in that house. but the jury never heard marianne crandall s testimony because there was no indication of a romantic relationship prior to dar s murder, the judge ruled, just as he did in first trial, that her testimony was prejudicial and, therefore, inadmissible. it was a huge blow to the prosecution s case. it supports the position that they weren t this deeply in love couple that he kept trying to present. i mean, that would have proven that. but norris still had her two key witnesses, tom s own son heath and heath s friend skyler watty, both two years older and now more certain than ever about what they saw and heard the day dar was killed. last year at church camp i went for one of our activities. we fired shotguns, and it most resembled that sound. then it was time for heath to take the stand.
tom admitted to the jury he did once flirt with carrie zuk, but he said that happened three years prior to the murder during a brief time when he and dar were arguing more than they were communicating. that put quite a bit of distance between us, and it also led to intimacy problems between her and i. tom says he eventually told dar about his feelings for carrie. he also says he went to counseling to work on their communication problems. after those session, did things get better? absolutely. then why was it so easy for tom to become intimate with marianne crandall so soon after dar s death? it was like three weeks after dar died. yes. and you re in the house where dar died. yeah. what am i to think of that? think that i don t care about what had just happened to my wife.