at a subway stop. jedediah: 2020 presidential hopeful beto o rourke taken to task at a phoenix rally earlier this month. we are a nation of laws, and i think it s a slap in the face to every legal immigrant who has waited and paid and played by the rules. what is a slap in the face to my conscience and the best traditions of this country is taking kids from their parents and putting them in cages. [cheers and applause] jedediah: our next guest calling out beto in a new op-ed, yes, beto, your immigration ideas are a slap in the face to angel moms like me. marian men doze saw is mother of an officer who was killed by a drunk driver in 2014, and she joins us now. welcome to show. thank you very much. jedediah: obviously, we want to just extend our condolences for the loss of your son, can you just remind us how he died? on may 12, 2014, a repeat