so i guess you can t win them all, but there s one thing kevin mccarthy did do. he gave the democrats their win in broad daylight in the middle of a friday when everybody was paying attention, congratulations, kevin, way to go. there s a lot to discuss tonight. let s bring in our panel. anita kumar, maria idiosa, also the author of the great book once i was you. and aknee that, i ll start with you. i feel like there s a split screen here, a juxtaposition between the democrats governing, passing things as is their job, and getting massively consequential things through. and you have whatever mccarthy is doing. what do you see americans are seeing this and between speeches about carrots and human and infrastructure and child care? well, i think you are exactly right earlier when you were
the fugitive slave law. we saw the murder of emit till and the murder of alabama, white vigilantes bringing people back. i think we can understand the challenges by looking back and find some potential solution. so this isn t different. but we also seen in our history that people of all racial backgrounds have fought together, marched together, have pushed this country to not where we want it to be, but some progress. we can both understand the challenges by looking back at history and we can find some potential solutions by looking at the ways in which people of all backgrounds can come together to move this country forward. thank you so much for being here. maria and cristela, stick around. but i think the message was keep pushing on, so that s what we ll do on this show. coming up, you know people who love to talk but don t have a whole lot to say. i was trying to get that out. but i m talking about kyrsten sinema and our hypocrisy hot
maria, do you think that kevin mccarthy thought that was going to work? i mean, you re just performing for donald trump, but, i mean, we ve listed through donald trump being disloyal to the people that were most loyal to him, including his vice president. is it just another example of a republican trying to show loyalty to donald trump and perhaps in the end failing because you already have matt gaetz on steve bannon s podcast saying it wasn t great. i have to be honest with you, zerlina. the last person i like to think about or spend any time thinking about or what s going on in this person s head is donald trump. i think that that is part of the whole issue and part of what happens is it s all about him, and i think i m thinking about the democratic party. i m thinking about when you read the introduction, how slim it was that build back better was able to make it through the
with you, take up space. yeah, it s all about it. by the way, i love adele too. but i m i m sorry for you, cristela, pobrecita, you were crying alone in your car. i m so sorry for you. sometimes we feel what we feel what we feel, maria. we can t stop it. that s human nature. that s okay. no, no, no. i think it s good to cry. i think if you re holding it in in this pandemic, let it out, you know. i call it intersecting distopias because climate change is there and we re paying attention to all these other things but, look, get it out. and then go dance. cry and then dance. completely. those are the rules. completely. those are the rules. maria and cristela, it s been so great to have you tonight, both of you. thank you so much for being here and playing with us all night. please stay safe. up next bye! up next, to infinite and beyond. impressive women making history around the world and even maybe in space. that s next.
doubt that rittenhouse was not reasonable in believing that he feared for his life in that moment. so it s a very high burden, obviously when you overlay that with some of the racial dynamics where white defendants in these circumstances get even more of the benefit of the doubt, there was testimony that suggested that he was being chased and there was testimony suggesting that a person maybe threatened his life. when you combine that with a very high standard that the prosecution had and the ways in which race informs and, frankly, privileged white defendants in these circumstances, i was not at all surprised by the verdict we saw yesterday. as disappointed as i was. maria, with all of that in mind, what s your reaction to this idea that white vigilantes may be emboldened by this? there is all the police killings that we can recall from the past year during this racial reckoning. what do you think this verdict