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technology contributor and tech reporter for the new york times. great to see you. thank you for being here. now that i parsed out the political trade side, can t totally do that with ron, let s talk about apple. apple is not only the biggest public company in the world, it s the one people love to invest in and use. in my earlier generation, it s the ibm or ge, the thing people invested in because they believed it s the newspapfuture. is there something to worry about? apple had its worst day in ten years. that s right. i think the way to look at apple is as you said before. it s not a computing company. it s not a services company. apple is an iphone company. if people stop buying iphones, it s a huge problem for them. it s their largest highest margin product. it s the thing that in all of our lives is just sort of a thing that resolves around what our lives resolve around at this point. and if folks start deciding look, my phone is good enough now, i don t need to upgrade it