prevent a possible wag the dog moment on the part of donald trump to attack someone or to do something unsettling. what do you make of that? i don t know. i ve only heard the rumors about the book. i haven t read it yet, neil. i assume it s based on anonymous sources that you have to wonder about. it s assume it s anonymous. i d take that into account. we ll see what the actual book says. my understanding is that it says that the chairman of the joint chiefs said and did some things that were inappropriate. only the president has a power to make a decision whether or not we go to war. anyway, i haven t read the book yet and we ll see what it says. neil: is there any point that you would say and this happened with secretary schlesinger where
the other thing that is a real threat that the biden people have this completely wrong, if we were to pass a $3 trillion debt bill, which congress is negotiating now and paid for mostly by printing money, that will cause prices to rise. neil: you know donald trump very well. is any of this in the woodward book and his state of mind and manic and angry after the election, does that jive with the donald trump you knew and worked with? no, it doesn t. i was with donald trump several times, many times in the oval office. the guy was always in charge and command. he s a force of nature in terms of his workday schedule. he was in fatiguable. i m not buying that that our national defense was in jeopardy. the president put our national defense in jeopardy is this one.
apart. so milley s comments behind his back would have reinforced that nation and made china nor arrogant, more dangerous. so i don t think that that was right. also, i don t believe the chinese felt that trump would nuke them. we haven t seen any unusual propaganda, we didn t see any unusual military movements on the part of the chinese or civil movements. so i think whatever the u.s. intelligence community said to general milley was absolutely wrong. neil: gordon, let me ask you about what the chinese thinking was after the election results. i m not sure that they thought donald trump would win re-election, whether they were pleased that he didn t because they had their acrimony back and forth. what was their thinking after the election? the chinese were ecstatic. we don t have to guess. there were comments from senior chinese officials and those
don t you never hear that. where is the evidence? neil: i do want to get to one last thing. general milley s concern was based on precedent at the time when like the nixon administration. he might do something at the time that they called crazy. that never happened. same was in play here. what we know when all was said and done is richard nixon did resign. there was no incident. what we know is donald trump unhappy with the election results so he did leave office. so none of this, the greatest fears ever panned out. what do you think of that? well, did kissinger ever call up the russians? this is pretty drastic stuff
contacts today. to the man. i usually talk about financial stuff or regulation. i was asking about this book that woodward just put out. they weren t surprised that on the pence stuff. everybody knows that pence felt enormous pressure from donald trump to do something to stop the election to stay in office. we all know that. none of them were sort of supportive of trump trying to stay in office and these are gop lobbyists and political advisers. they think he lost genuinely. what they were most outrageous is the conduct of general milley. these are people that deal not just on financial measures, maybe social issues and doing a lot of things. they have never heard of a general calling up essentially an enemy think about it. china is an adversary. where was the evidence that