office yet to score. if you water down the tax increases, it could add to the testify sit, right? you wouldn t pay for anything. assuming tax increases stay, the plan could add zero dollars to the national debt if it balances new spending with new revenues on paper. there is a reason the pay fors are met with scrutiny. in 2017, supporters promised they would be paid by the economic growth. they were not. brian brianna. christine, thank you. right now this has boiled down to a battle between moderate democrats between joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. joining me now to discuss this and to debate where things stand, former senior manchin