have been charged with first degree man slaughter as opposed to second degree. second degree man slaughter is a pretty light charge there. it included includes things like if someone s dog kills someone, the owner of that dog would be charged with second degree man slaughter if the owner had been reckless. so this is the lightest form of man slaughter he could have been charged with. that s correct. and frankly, 33 years of practice, i ve never seen someone charged with second degree man slaughter in my life. the people making those arguments are on the end of advance ago civil case on behalf of the decedent. i don t think anyone objectively looking at these facts with legal training would make that argument. i want to bring up something in our community with you today and, again, i appreciate you doing the show. you texted us a photo of eric harris, which we have here on the screen. it s a photo of him, both hands up, giving the finger with both